Beyond the Obvious: An Interview with Anna Hartman

Are you actually treating the right thing… or just what’s obvious?

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Are you actually treating the right thing… or just what’s obvious?

Because those are very different.

And if you’re missing the real driver of your patient’s symptoms…

No amount of exercises, techniques, or experience is going to fix it.

In this episode, Nicole sits down with athletic trainer and educator Anna Hartman to dive into a completely different way of thinking about assessment, treatment, and what it really means to be an effective clinician.

Anna brings a unique blend of:

•  Orthopedic rehab 

•  Osteopathic and visceral approaches 

•  High-level work with professional athletes and Navy SEAL candidates 

And the result is a perspective that challenges a lot of what we’ve been taught.

We cover:

•  Why assessment—not treatment—is the most important skill you have 

•  The difference between treating symptoms vs finding the true driver 

•  Why “results in 1–3 visits” isn’t about shortcuts—it’s about precision 

•  How ego gets in the way of clinical progress (more than you think) 

•  What it actually means to “trust what you feel” as a clinician 

•  Why repetition—not information—is the key to real skill development 

This conversation will push you.

It might even make you a little uncomfortable.

But if you’re willing to question your assumptions and level up your clinical thinking…

There’s a lot here.

Anna Hartman

A huge 'thank you' to Anna for being on the podcast and sharing her wisdom with all of us.  Make sure you're following her @movementrev and find all her courses and resources at www.movementrev.com

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Nicole Cozean, PT, DPT, WCS

Founder of Pelvic PT Rising and PelvicSanity Physical Therapy in Southern California.

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Jesse Cozean, MBA

Co-founder of the Pelvic PT Rising and the Rising Podcast.

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